DRAGON HALL 17th March 2007. We raised £477.06 for RNIB, thanks to everyone who attended Dragon Hall as below:
Helen S, David S, Gemma B, Ollie S, Chris S, Lesley F, John F, Heidi H, Laura D, Paula H, Jackie A, Evelyn D, Jane D, Tara M, Ali C, Pamela K, Debbie D, Becky N, Dave S, Kerry T, Glen B, Graham R, Rebecca C, Luci-Ann, Elizabeth H, Sandra H, Emily B, Miwa B, Jono A, Deborah W, David R, Julie C, Lisa C, Siofra C, Melanie R, Lisa H, Sarah F, Siobhan M and all Npeg members.
PSYCHOMETRY- GREAT HALL- GROUP A: GEMMA B, horse and carriage, religion (this site has several religious connections). HELEN S, music drum (hand held), voices laughter, dancing, feels hot (could this be when this building was transformed to a pub? Or connect to Jane’s below). DAVID S, felt fire, was this place damaged by fire? (see below) OLLIE S, old bloke with a white beard, dressed in a type of military or army uniform. It feels to be around the 1700’s, he seems a very senior figure. I feel an image of two or three large tables with men eating a dinner being served by servants. It seems again to be in 1700’s. All the men seemed to be knights or bishops (has connections to Woburn Abbey and part of this building became the Vicarage/Rectory of St Julian but not sure on dates). CHRIS S, had strong feeling of being pushed out of window whilst looking out. Feel that building would have been left derelict at some point due to extensive damage. Roof would have been missing for a time. Wildlife living in rafters, e.g. birds, roof originally thatched (correct), would be intrigued to see under the floor boards (there was damaged during the War in 1942, to what extent i don’t know. While the Old Barge Inn, Temporary closure August 1969 became permanent. Building substantially restored by local council following closure, purchased in 1979 from Watney Mann). GROUP B: sorry no names on these but I will number them, 1: fields, old beams, felt fire; left wall, dizzy feeling, sharp pain to the head, arch/beam, light-head, windows; cold. 2:unbalanced, light headed, gallows, driftwood, burning wood smell, flagpole, tingling in fingers (opposite hand to touching wood), and vibration under foot. 3: felt like I was moving back and forward, like on a boat. 4:Dizziness, blurred vision, stinging eyes (burning). 5: man in a large hat, lots of ladies and gentlemen dressed in fine clothes, swords, pressure on back of neck, heavy feeling. GROUP C: JACKIE A: 2nd window, saw fingers very old with swollen knuckles, could hear small sols of young girl child, crying because mother has left/died. Far end wall, throat constricts and get dry, cough. Beam, frustrated, waiting for someone who is late, very late, and they need to be here, name Boswell, useless man, beam 2, feeling of lightheadness and headachy and again choking feeling (see below). Pungent smell of apples, past best. JANE D, newly decorated by Norman people, lots of colour for an important man to stay/visual possibly royalty. They came after the city was recognised and lots of new buildings sprang up, a new entrance or arch was made for this occasion and local people marched through the streets and were formally recognized. Something about wool (correct) and a John and Marie not necessary together but same period. A sit in or lock in, people barricading themselves in through their own choice. A main stopping place on a canal/river for trade which turned into quite a corrupt place where people feared to come after dark during hard times plague/revolution, not a major revolution more a person revolution. A place of justice more a holding place than a prison, not often used for this purpose (Toppes did own the Guildhall). Some wood and material brought somewhere else when part of the building was rebuilt (Toppes rebuilt the originally building to a trading hall in the 1400’s and Toppes imported from Holland and Belgium). Something’s missing from the roof, possible a bell or flag, vervain? Strong sense of medieval music being played and a celebration, which went wrong in the medieval period, which changed everything. TARA, Albert Threatened aged 44, black plague, grain around Second World War, 3 tunnels, severed right arm, missing pictures (shutters), spear, armour (1821, 1862, 1936). Window/glass not original, iron, flood, hanging (battle), 3 lights hanging missing, mill, waterwheel, treachery/betrayal, 3 people monk (abbot), (has connections to Woburn Abbey and part of this building became the Vicarage/Rectory of St Julian but not sure on dates). Tudor 3 homes Thomas Nicholson, sacrifice, crossway. Roof leaks-September, poverty stricken, where is the cross? footsteps have been heard, chilling breeze, hair tugged, fair left room, arch, Louis Montgomery (did have 3 homes but not sure when). EVEY, cold, uneasy, gold silk, red bright colours, dust, market place, hustle and bustle, money, pieces of coins, table (some stuff laid out), pottery, china, rugs, spices/sage, monks, shoemaker/cobbler, blacksmith, tea, Joseph, (some of the licensees also were traders ( Clicker: Shoe trade worker, also leather worker. Printer’s assistant. Also Tallyman. Cordwainer: Shoemaker (not bootmaker). Originally using Cordovan Spanish leather. In practice made other objects from leather (i.e. leather bottles) and this was a trading hall and includes a lot of the above items mentioned). GROUP D: ALI C, Blood, sounds of bell, baby in an old fashioned cradle with a bonnet on (possible church bells, as opposite church?). BEX N, pushed away, hands went dead, burning, dizziness, heavenly relaxed, calm. DAVE S, Cold, horse and carts. DEBBIE D, Lady serving a customer a man (like a shop), at far end of great hall, buying cloth, money changes hands (this can be confirmed as this area was a trading hall and cloth was traded). GROUPE&F: GLEN, feeling it hard to breath, aching back, not a happy place, feeling of lots of things being brought in and out, potentially used for storage, wool brought in from a local source, fire on premises? (visual) (this was a trading/storage hall export/import and wool was used locally, also see below). REBECCA, felt like that a lot of renovation had taken place, i.e. felt like a new building (this is correct). EMILY saw boats, white sails, large boats on river, several (3?), sails per boat, transporting materials, i.e. wood, (visual from out of window) (items were transported by boats). JONO, a German link (Germany pottery was imported). GROUPG & H: SIOFRA, annoyed, colour blue. Horse and cart, man on it, black pointed hat with feather, had pain in head and shoulders, shivers down spine. Long passageway, feeling sad, misty, like a cathedral. DAVID D, saw several portraits one after the other, they were of people in Elizabethan dress. First woman wore dull red bodice with pale green puffed sleeves. She was dark haired-tied back with a pale, round (chubby) face. Tightly pursed lips, quite an unfriendly look. I also saw a bearded man in elaborate clothing and a woman who looked like Elizabeth I (Occupant during Elizabethan time was a major called John Whitfield who also owned Keels. Queen Elizabeth I did visit Norwich, did she visit this property while in Norwich?) Tracy’s comments: I found the notes from this part of the night the most interesting, some of the information can be confirmed but for me the most interesting is the information that can not be confirmed, several times horse and cart/carriage is mentioned and also a fire is mentioned several times. The roof is mentioned, lightheadness, dizziness, a flag/pole is mentioned twice, could the choking feeling/hard to breathe and the stinging eyes (burning) be connected to the fire that other people picked up? I will continue to research and if/when any more information can be confirmed it will be added. I am quite sure I read somewhere that there was a fire at Dragon Hall but I can not find any records of this, I will of course continue to research.
PSYCHIC ART-GREAT HALL – I am aware that while group E were doing psychic art, that two people drew the same picture of a woman and they were opposite ends of the room, so that is really interesting. While Evey was doing psychic art, she wrote down what she got as follows: man name of Johnson, aged 52/53, bald on top, hair goes all way round the middle of the head and down, chestnut brown, bushy eyebrows, beard, blue eyes, weathered looking, outside a lot, long tunic, blue with patterned trim, black belt, loose fitting white shirt, legging type trouser, pixie type boots, knows quite a lot of people or he is well known, everybody knows his face, market trader, wears something around neck on long chain or piece of string (money bag or cross), Christian but not strict believer, good honest man. (We can confirm that there was a man by the name of Johnson that was a licensee of The Old Barge Inn and this site has several religious connections). I have had several people contact me since saying that the history sheet I complied and was handed out at the end of the night confirmed what they had drawn/sensed while doing this activity.
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17th March 2007 - Dragon Hall, King Street, Norwich. CONTINUED.
DOWSING-GREAT HALL - Group A: Helen gained, male adult, did not live here or die here. David S gained, male child aged 11, initials of BQ, lived and died here, died in 777AD. Gemma B gained, female named Ingrid E, died aged 54 in 1615, lived here but did not die here. Chris gained, adult male, Robert/Bob D, died in 1600’s possible 1648. Ollie gained, Male child here but did not live here. Group B: Evey gained, David I, lived and died here, died aged 60/61 in 1780. Jackie A gained, male child Edward B aged 37 died in 15th century, year 04, lived and died here (the child and age does not tally each other). Paula gained, female L Smith, aged 27 died in 16/17 century, died here not sure if lived here. Group C: Jane gained, Lauren A, aged 4 died in 1715, did not live or die here, parents came from Lincoln, father something to do with church, she has appeared before by the courtyard and something to do with peoples shoes? (There is connections to shoe trade/shoemaker on this land) Tara gained, Edna or Etna Hainslot, died aged 37 in 1812-1845, lived here but didn’t die here. Group D: Ali C gained, female child aged 5 months, lived and died here. Debbie gained, Male, initial PG, died here aged 41 in 1790, did not live here. Pam gained, Female adult in 40’s, died in 1500’s, did not die or live here. Bex gained, Female child aged 4-5, Christine Downs in 1706, died here but did not live here. Dave gained, female child Ambell A, died aged 11 in 1470, lived and died here. Group E: Kerry gained, Samuel Clark died aged 47 here but didn’t live here. Lucie gained, Joseph Brown, died in his 80’s in 1976. Group G: Julie C gained, V Walters, died aged 17 in 1736, lived and died here. Lisa C gained, Christopher Jackard died aged 70’s in 1910, lived here but did not die here. David gained, adult, Donald Gray, died in 1893, lived and died here, born in 1841 and was very happy here. Deborah gained, Tim Simpson died aged 42 in 1643, died of breathing problems, was married, visited here but did not live here, was making flashes downstairs. Group H: gained by unknown: Grace (cant spell last name), died aged 7, lived here but did not die here, had long life (does not tally). Siofra gained, male aged 31, initials DK, lived here in 1940’s as a child, died in 1960’s (doesn’t add up?), drawn here because love the place, did not die in Norwich. Gained by unknown: David/Daniel teenage male worked here. Gained by unknown: Female child died aged 8 in 15th century, initial B, lived here but did not die here, lived here with parents but all murdered. Emily gained: Henry Neoman died aged 28 in 1514, died in an accident, crushed by falling timber, lived here but did not die here, Emily felt his hands on her shoulders during the vigil and drew his picture in psychic art. Tracy’s comments, both myself and Mark could not find any historical records to support the dowsing findings, but it does not mean the people did not exist, as records were not kept very good in days of old. But it was a mixture of spirit not living/dying here or living here and not dying here or dying here and not living here, this to me was interesting, as there were few spirits that actually lived and died here obtained during the dowsing, did some spirit come in from elsewhere to talk to people or was it residual energy being picked up or is there another explanation?
EQUIPMENT/BASE LINE READINGS – DISPLAY ROOMS - GROUP A: Unexplainable emf reading were recorded in the School Room, by both the outside windows and door (king st side) and a reading of 25mg in the middle of the room by the table, these were not constant. The temperature by the north side of the room was colder than by the south side (king st side). The Rectory, there were emf readings by the door, about half way up. We had problems with the thermometers, they kept reading Lo but the battery indicator was showing a full battery, bearing in mind all equipment was checked before we got to Dragon Hall. Group B: Unexplainable emf readings were recorded in the School room, by both outside windows and door (king st side), there were also two unexplainable emf readings in the middle of the room in different locations, and this was not constant and came and went. The temperature recorded on the north side of the room at averaging 16-16.6◦c but on the south side of the room (king st side) the temperature was reading between 14.7-15.4◦c, most could feel it was colder in this area. Middle room, there was emf readings recorded by the door and in the sw corner (alcove). We had problems with the thermometers, they kept reading Lo but the battery indicator was showing a full battery, bearing in mind all equipment was checked before we got to Dragon Hall. GROUP D: School room: The temperature recorder kept going Lo all of the time. Jane had a stud gun and it kept flicking and acting strange. K held it and nothing happened. Temperature dropped from 21.6 to 19.2◦c then went off and would not work, near the door in front of the entrance about 5 mins later it started to work again with readings of 16.8 from 18.3◦c, Jane got a temperature of 15.6◦c the right corner near TV screen. Rectory: 1 emf fluctuated low reading at the bottom of the steps but other emf meters did not pick this up and the meter worked fine in the rest of the room. Temperature 17.8◦c, both emf meters fluctuated near the display (could be electrical), temperature recorder still reading lo, near rectory door 14◦c. Middle of the room: emf reading went to yellow a few times in little alcove, on floor next to fireplace, constant on yellow. Emf on caution round heater but stud gun didn’t pick anything up. While Jane was holding the emf meter, on orange (10-20mg) all the way along the floor out of alcove up to red (25mg) at cupboard along wall. Other emf meters didn’t pick up anything in alcove. Temperature 15.0◦c in alcove, but hi in the middle of the room. Jane emf went up to red down the ram into the middle room. Jane got yellow reading all along the floor in rectory, same part as middle room and on the way out, flickered to (25+ mg) (I would suggest its cables in the flooring). K got a temperature of 6.8◦c just as she was leaving the School room and it was the first reading since being in here. Tracy’s comments: The readings of the three groups in the above rooms would suggest that the emf readings were normal as all groups got similar emf readings in the same areas, stud guns were used to rule out electrical explanations but the emf readings were not constant either, as I was in two of the groups I witnessed this and at the time I could find no explanation for the emf readings. I have since tested the thermometers with the same batteries and they are all working normally. Group E: The Old Barge Room, The temperature by the window was 15◦c and 18◦c in the middle of the room. There were emf readings in the SSW corner of yellow (2.5-10mg) and emf readings of 20+mg in the NNW corner of the room. GROUP H: The old Barge Room, There were emf readings of 2.5-10mg in the SSE corner and emf readings in the SSW corner of yellow (2.5-10mg). GROUP G: Sorry no notes for this group. Unfortunately nothing is stated to say that the stud guns ruled out normal explanations of electrical cables etc on the notes from the other groups.
VIGILS – UPPER CELLAR - GROUP D: Some people were very cold; something was felt between two people, it was just cold to one side of the chairs, to right facing the tv screen. The cold then moved to another part of the room, K felt two cold blasts to the left of her, near the camera stand. Plug on the wall kept going darker and lighter, 3 people kept seeing this happen. K felt a slight touch on her right arm, asked spirit to do it again and she felt it again. Other people could also feel this. Someone eeps as they saw a purple square on the light switch.
GROUP G: Deborah sensed fire, sore throat, hard to breath, at 8.58pm at tap was heard and at 8.59pm a flash was seen. Dave felt hot and pressure, Deborah felt had was tingling. At 9.07pm the tv went out of focus. Sorry I have no notes for the other groups.
1st séance – old barge Room, We didn’t have anything significant happen, maybe a couple of noises but this can not be ruled out by the noise coming from elsewhere in the building and/or the drunks outside of the building. 1st séance – lower cellar/undercrofts to be added soon. 1st vigil – Display room, sorry no notes. 1st vigil – Great hall – north wing area. Cold spots and one person felt a tickling on the top of their head. 2nd Séance - Old barge Room to be added soon. 2nd Séance – Lower cellar/undercroft, A few noises were heard in various parts of the cellar, lights and mist were seen, a presence was felt behind some people, mainly Ali. Jane had her hair moved and this was visible to most people sitting in the séance and Ali later had her hair moved. Pam had pressure on her neck/shoulders. T, K and Jane heard a huh/breathing out noise.
EVENTS ROOM/BASE ROOM
At 7.30pm Jackie A, entered the room and opened up and felt like was waiting form something nasty to happen and could hear machinery with a repetitive sound very quickly moving, dull rumble of machinery in background. (We have found that there were metalworking shop (16-18th century), small scale craft and industry (pre 13th century), many shops and pubs (19th century) some of the licensees also were traders ( Clicker: Shoe trade worker, also leather worker. Printer’s assistant. Also Tallyman. Cordwainer: Shoemaker (not bootmaker). Originally using Cordovan Spanish leather. In practice made other objects from leather (i.e. leather bottles). While Npeg were packing away at the end of the night, Tracy witnessed some chairs being pushed as they were folded up and stacked against the banister/stairs area, i actually saw them being pushed and not just falling/slipping, the chairs fell to the ground and was witnessed by other members of Npeg.
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